Coffee in Baden-Baden

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Coffee in Baden-Baden

Postby phil » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:22 pm

Eiscafe Capri, Sophienstrasse 18, Baden-Baden

Very central. The only place where I managed to get a decently flavoured shot. Good ice cream too!

The first time I went, the coffee knocked my socks off! The double espresso was pulled too long (probably 75-100 ml) but the crema was very good - a nice tan colour, with no sign of whiteout. The flavour was exceptional, with a winey and musty/bitey combination of flavours that was (I think) reminiscent of Indian coffees and probably a bit of monsooned malabar. No harshness, no bite, very smooth. Mouthfeel a little thin, presumably because of the length of the shot. Overall the best coffee I've had in a shop for a very long time.

Subsequent visits never quite managed to reproduce that bell-ringing first experience, but the coffee was always somewhere between reasonable and good. Nowhere else in Baden-Baden even came close.

Interestingly every cafe I found used a super-auto bean to cup jobby. No traditional machines were in sight. And do you know what? On balance I approve. You're never going to get a "God shot" from a superauto, but you're never going to get one in most cafes anyway. If places don't want to invest in the training, equipment and time to produce top quality espresso based drinks (or don't even understand why they should :roll:) then a superauto and a good cleaning regime is one way to produce something drinkable, assuming decent beans. Heresy? I don't think so personally. Better coffee is the objective, and most cafes simply aren't interested in the level of commitment to the process that TMC members take for granted.

But someone really ought to tell these guys how to foam milk! Sea foam and meringues everywhere! :harrumph:
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La Spaziale Lusso grinder (espresso),
Macap MC4 shop grinder (brewed coffee)
Three Thor tampers
Two Hottops, first since Feb 2003
No partridge, no pear tree either
Conas, Zassenhaus hand grinder....
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Postby simonp » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:53 pm

Cetainly got to be better than the pod based machines :evil:
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Isomac Rituale
Mazzer Mini
Mahlkonig Vario
Chemex
Aeropress
2 Bodum press pots
Hottop updated to a B with Compuetr control
Imex roaster, dimmer mod on heater (under spare bed)
Rival popper, with split motor and dimmer mod on heater (retired)
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Postby phil » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:07 pm

Do shops use pod machines?
La Spaziale Spazio 2 group semi-auto

La Spaziale Lusso grinder (espresso),
Macap MC4 shop grinder (brewed coffee)
Three Thor tampers
Two Hottops, first since Feb 2003
No partridge, no pear tree either
Conas, Zassenhaus hand grinder....
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Postby MKSwing » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:37 pm

phil wrote:Do shops use pod machines?


Little restaurants do.
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Postby simonp » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:41 pm

Jess made the mistake of having ans espresso from the cafe bit near the entrance of Debenhams in Swindon. Sounded like they used a pod machine, and gave her a nice full 2oz cup from, I suspect, a singe pod. She said it was pretty much the worst thing she has ever tried to drink!
Profitec 700 dual boiler
Isomac Rituale
Mazzer Mini
Mahlkonig Vario
Chemex
Aeropress
2 Bodum press pots
Hottop updated to a B with Compuetr control
Imex roaster, dimmer mod on heater (under spare bed)
Rival popper, with split motor and dimmer mod on heater (retired)
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Postby phil » Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:08 pm

That's a shame - they used to do a half (but only half) decent cup.

From memory I think it looks like a bean to cup machine though.
La Spaziale Spazio 2 group semi-auto

La Spaziale Lusso grinder (espresso),
Macap MC4 shop grinder (brewed coffee)
Three Thor tampers
Two Hottops, first since Feb 2003
No partridge, no pear tree either
Conas, Zassenhaus hand grinder....
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Postby Danny » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:17 pm

I think the superauto's are ok for restaurants and places which have coffee because it's expected. I would hate to see every cafe ending up wth one. (I mean a place where coffee is the main product)

As for the pods, I see pod machines and even, god help me, Philips Senseo machines at small eaterys.
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Postby Raf » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:28 pm

I have seen pods at Michelin star rated restaurants - godawful. I can't understand how these top chefs can serve such disgusting coffee.
This week I am eagerly anticipating the first god shots from my La Spaziale machine....

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