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At last, achievement.

Postby Richard » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:19 am

Hi again everyone, I've purposely been avoiding you guys whilst searching for a base-line for myself. I had a tremendous amount of help from this site but unfortunately started running before I could walk.

At a time the recommendations were to buy a decent grinder first I lusted over an espresso machine, there's something about an espresso machine that pandered to my ego but it wasn't a good idea for me.

Next mistake was buying lot's of different beans yet roasting them myself and never realising the different flavours available from a single bean-type achievable by changes in the roasting process.

I stopped buying different beans opting for Steve's ' Brazilian Perfetio blend' then roasted taking the roast to my usual, 'just going shiny' and just did that for a whole 6 kilos because I liked it.

Since then I've taken the roast a little further and even stopped some roasts within 30 seconds of first-crack. A whole range a flavours within a single bean I would have never known about if I'd kept just buying different beans.

The latest is blending two roast levels, at the risk of exaggerating I have achieved 4 different flavours from the same bean.

Thanks for helping me to find a new owner for the Silvia, I just needed to get-back to basics, I continue to roast with a hot-air gun into a large heavy SS collander and no-doubt a roasting machine would be lovely but just like with the Silvia it isn't necessary for good coffee.

Regards to everyone.

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Re: At last, achievement.

Postby Bertie_Doe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:42 am

Richard wrote:The latest is blending two roast levels, at the risk of exaggerating I have achieved 4 different flavours from the same bean.

Thanks for helping me to find a new owner for the Silvia, I just needed to get-back to basics


I made the same mistake, I rushed around trying dozens of different origins and blends, whereas I should have experimented, using various profiles before discarding the bean.

Another fun geeky area, is split layer blending. I believe Bruce tried it a couple of years ago. The theory is thus : depending on individual taste buds, a darker roast requires a cooler brew and a lighter roast requires a hotter brew.

Lets say, in your stash you have a lighter roasted Central and a dark roasted Haraar. You layer 8g of the Haraar into the basket with 8g of the Central on top. The hot brew-water contacts the top of the pack and cools as it gravitates down. I warned you it was geeky. The danger of course is if you allow the coffee to sit in the basket overlong - this is called 'cooking the pack' :cry: you get a bitter taste.
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Postby Richard » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:28 pm

Thanks for sharing that, its not just me then.

Because I was so determined not to buy a roasting machine and that I had decided time/temperature wasn't the whole story I needed to get a feel for things or a more 'apt' description is perhaps to get hard-wired between the kit I have and my senses.

By the time I get through this 6 kilos of Perfetio I can afford to buy another bean type so I already started to read the forum pages.

I must edit that list of stuff on my posts because most of it has gone, I use a press-pot at home and a gold-filter modified Aeropress in my motorhome, the Aeropress makes a better cup than does the press-pot but my partner will only use the press. Now I've simplified everything she makes good coffee and is confident when we have guests.
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Postby Bertie_Doe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:17 pm

Richard wrote:I must edit that list of stuff on my posts because most of it has gone, I use a press-pot at home and a gold-filter modified Aeropress in my motorhome


I have never tasted any results from an Aeropress. I always regarded the Press pot as a stop-gap and only used when unexpected visitors arrived and the espresso machine was cold. I was also convinced that all origins tasted the same thru a PP.

Things changed earlier in the year when my Zaffiro went 'clang' and I was forced to research and experiment with the Press. I soon discovered I was scorching the coffee. When I waited about for 4 mins and let the water drop to 90C, I was realy quite pleased with what I was tasting and there was no great rush to fix the machine.
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