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RE: Re: RE: Go ahead and drool, my (hopefully) new roaster

Postby zapty » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:11 am

She is up and running.
After taking her completely apart, cleaning, adjusting, oiling, testing the motor, figuring out the electrics, rewiring it and having the three elements re-coiled, a stand made for it and put back together again I have now done a few roasts with it.
The little 3 barrel Probat works like a dream and roasts really well. No surprise there as that is what it was built for, it maybe old (1951) but in it's day it was a state of the art professional piece of equipment.
I am running the 3 heating elements with the help of a variac in order to have some more control over the output.
The old motor still runs like a dream.
It is a joy to operate and experiment with.
This little machine makes it much easier to experiment with different roast levels.

Should I now keep this little jewel or ....sell it?
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Postby lukas » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:42 am

Wow zapty, I'm jealous! Would you sell it to me for the price you got it for? :evil:

What about conversion to gas? too expensive?
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Postby zapty » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:49 pm

Hey Lukas, No. I don't think I would sell it for what I bought it for, I have sunk some cash in it already to get it going (elements rewired, stand made etc). The conversion to gas is pretty expensive, yes but I decided to keep it original, exactly like it was built so many years ago.
If it had been gas the conversion to electrics would have been expensive also.
I'm glad I decided to leave the roasters original design intact.

Have you used the Alessi coffeemaker yet?
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Postby lukas » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:06 pm

Yes, indeed! For some reason the Coffee I got was too cold. I guess it's the short heatup phase 'cause of the wide bottom. Fixable if you preheat the thing :). It's making me a really nice cup of coffee every now and then.

That evil smiley above also meant to be an evil grinning smiley ;), I hope you enjoy the Probat and of course I hope you keep it. Is the profile controllable? How long can you stretch the roast? Awww, I want one :)
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Postby zapty » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:14 pm

Yeah, the profile is very controllable, airflow, temperature, drum revolutions, you name it....
I'm still in the testing phase so....
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Postby Sunnyfield » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:36 am

This is just fantastic Zapty! I am very glad you did not convert it into a gas-powered roaster. Antique masterpieces like these need to be kept in their original (albeit reconditioned) state.

If you have the space for it, I would definitely keep it.

Are the original specs 220V AC? What is the power consumption (i.e. how many Watts)?
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Postby grib » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:00 pm

So where do you guys come across such great old roasters, I'm probably gonna need an upgrade in the next few months and I may as well go big. Intelligensia have some great looking machines btw, anyone else agree?
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Postby zapty » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:02 pm

Well, I started out with roasting 100 gram batches per barrel, then 150 grams and now have progressed to 200 grams per barrel with still excellent results.
I tend to roast the first barrel to just in to full first crack, the second barrel till right after first crack and the third barrel up to full second crack.
I then cool and blend all three roast levels together in order to have the full range of flavours from the beans.
Works really well. The Probat heats up in a jiffy and produces excellent roasts, one roast after another.

Draws a lot of comments from people too as in the summer I tend to roast with my garage door open...
The whole street smells of coffee....
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Postby lukas » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:05 pm

Patrick, you just made me want to go back to your place immediatly! :)
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Postby zapty » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:55 pm

Right on Lukas, I've got some nice whiskey we didn't get in to last time...give me a call when you are within 20 kilometers and I'll guide you in...
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Postby lukas » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:46 pm

grzzssttrrrr! Okay ;)
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