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A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:41 am
by quoad
The drip coffee machine in our graduate parlour regularly gets left on.

Sometimes for a period of 2-4 days.

Quite possibly longer.

At the end of this kind of blitzkrieg, there's often a deep, baked, pure essence of coffee death left at the bottom of the jug.

Now...

What interests me is that when I wash the jug out, the coffee tar froths up. The amount of foam and the bubbliness have an... um... surface tension? Or a shape / form / appearance JUST like washing up liquid.

Any ideas why?

RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:00 pm
by bruceb
I can't imagine why, but it doesn't happen when we wash out the jug in our lab lounge. I will say, however, that the smell of the rehydrated sludge is probably one of the most unpleasant I know of. BTW, I don't drink anything that comes out of the machine in any case. Image

Are you sure the jug is rinsed well after using detergent on it? Maybe the coffee contains 10% Fairy. :shock: :lol:

Edit: Unlucky typo corrected

Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:16 pm
by quoad
bruceb wrote:I can't imagine why, but it doesn't happen when we wash out the jug in our lab lounge. I will say, however, that the smell of the rehydrated sludge is probably one of the most unpleasant I know of. BTW, I don't drink anything that comes out of the machine in any case. Image

Are you sure the jug is rinsed well after using detergent on it? Maybe the coffee contains 10% Fairy. :shock: :lol:

Edit: Unlucky typo corrected


Absolutely positive there's no Fairy in there. This has happened multiple times, always with the same effect. And always starting with a burnt-out jug of beyond-sludge. We are talking two- to three-day baked dry gunk.

The machine is mostly used with godawful Sainsbury's sludge (sometimes with pre-espresso-ground coffee...), but I'll sometimes bring in some fresh ground if I'm going to be working here. It's either that or the Gaggia... And the graduate parlour Gaggia... genuinely doesn't bear mention.

RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:38 pm
by bruceb
Hmmmmm, sounds like a thesis project brewing! Image

Re: RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:33 pm
by quoad
bruceb wrote:Hmmmmm, sounds like a thesis project brewing! Image


WELL.

I'm a criminologist.

IMO this definitely counts as a crime against coffee.

Next time I come across a baked-dry tarball, I'll try and get some pics / video of the foaming :)

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:28 pm
by quoad
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AND after the foam had been left to settle for a minute or so...

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:30 am
by quoad
OK, so I'm making an absolute tonne of filter coffee for work at the moment.

And it's clear that this happens to all leftover coffee, regardless of how baked-in its been.

I'd just never seen it at home, because there's never any leftover coffee :D

I guess the principle's exactly the same as for crema, duh.

:oops:

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:45 pm
by phil2spill
Your tap appears to have an aerator type thing there, quoad - that'll probably create some foaminess anyway I guess?

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: A question about coffee tar...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:18 pm
by kingseven
Likely the same reason you get crema. Some of the roast by products - usually melanoidins - are good surfactants. They are pretty bomb proof as compounds (they did survive the roasting process after all).

Get some Cafiza in there and give it a damn good soak. Then a scrub. Rinse and repeat etc...